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This article is from the KnowHR blog.

Women Make Less Than Men Because They Want To

Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 by Frank Roche

Okay, that’s a purposely provocative title. I don’t believe it for one second. But one of KnowHR’s commenters does. Steven R. said this in response to an article I wrote titled Women Make Less Than Men: 5 Things HR Needs to Do Right Now to End Pay Inequality:

Do some research and then come back and write something as dumb as this. Young men do make more money then young women. The stats are these for every $.92 cents a woman makes a man makes $1.

Instead of looking at the superficial level. Take a look at the actual facts. For example take a look at young doctors on average a young male doctor works 500 more hours, yes I repeat 500 more hours than young woman doctor.

Why because the fact is men work for longer hours and stay at jobs longer. So, if it starts an a young age for men and women are getting off to a slow start it’s no wonder why men make more money.

Most importantly women are happy with the money they are making. They feel like they earned that money and a majority stated they were fine with their salary. The question that needs to be asked is why is what someone makes so importnat? When it’s a fact that money does not equal happiness?

Are women happy with the money they make if it’s not fair? Should women just be happy that they’re getting paid, as Steven suggests? And isn’t it great to show, once again, that 93 percent of statistics are made up on the spot? (Where did that number come from that says male doctors work 500 more hours — per year? per week? per day? — than women doctors?)

What do you think?

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I find it interesting that this debate still rages.  Perhaps it’s only my personal experience, but I know for a fact that I worked more hours than any of my male counterparts at my last two jobs.  I also worked more hours than any of my superiors.  And, I stayed in the same job for 12 years, almost unheard of in this day and age. On top of that, I was paid more than any of my peers.

But what I find interesting is the idea that women make less than men because they want to do so. And the reason I find that interesting is because I’m waffling on that one myself.dollarsigns

Don’t get me wrong – I know what I’m worth.  I know how much I should make as a salaried employee and I know what I should make as a contractor.  The thing is, as being on unemployment for the last 3 months has taught me – I can make it on less.  But I think about taking  a lower-paying job because I liked the hours or the job focused on the parts of being a trainer that I love.

But once I do that – commit to a lower salary to gain other perks – am I screwing myself out of the job that I want to have eventually?  Am I telling other people that I am not worth as much?  That I don’t have as much drive or ambition?  Of course, I know I could go and make more money at another company.  But what if I really love this part-time gig that gives me more free time?

Any takers on these questions?  I’m sure that this question also applies to men.  I know that we’re taught that we have to keep reaching higher and make more and more money.  But in the end, can we say, I don’t need the money – I’d rather have more perks?

Written by Angela Risner

March 11, 2009 at 10:50 PM

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  1. One of the biggest problems I have with this issue everytime it is mentioned is that few are looking at the political agenda of those publishing the “data.”

    Is The American Association of University Women really gender neutral on this issue?

    I learned decades ago to ignore such “findings” when I found of that the original pay inequity data that was publishing by NOW (back in the 70s) grouped the pay and job of the executive with pay and job of the assistant. NOW’s argument was that they essentially worked as a team and should be paid as a team; ignoring the fact that the executive has a lot more responsibility.

    Is The American Association of University Women doing something simliar? Perhaps, male students do more internships or take more challenging classes thereby making them worth more in the entry-level job market? I am not saying this is the case I am simply saying that I am skeptical of the data without all the facts being presented.

    Being a trainer you might appreciate that I did see research while in graduate school that showed male trainers made more money than female trainers.

    However, this was done by grouping both software (training end users on existing software) trainers and technical (training programmers and others on programming language, hardware, etc. – clearly a more demanding job with a much higher skill set required)trainers together.

    When the two groups were broken down the data showed that there really wasn’t a difference due to gender but rather it was due to the degree of difficulty and expertise needed for the two jobs. For whatever reason software training had more women and technical training had more men.

    Charles

    March 12, 2009 at 11:31 AM

  2. @ Charles – Not being a feminist myself (I believe in human rights – not just rights for one section based upon race or gender or other archaic segregation of folks), I’m not sure that I can answer this. I have rarely felt discriminated against because of my gender. I myself do both technical and interpersonal training. Not having come across anyone who only teaches programming or such, I can’t speak to that. I would think that most of those folks are more in a collegiate group, where my experience lies in corporations.

    Angela Risner

    March 14, 2009 at 12:16 AM


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